Heyo, Kill lincoln is looking for some shows for the summer so if anyone has anything in the works - backyards, basements, bars, birthdays, bar mitzvahs, let us know!

shoot me an email, mikesosinski@gmail.com

www.myspace.com/killeffinglincoln

thanks!


ps ive been checking out the shows section and i really don't see that many shows featuring local bands going on - whats the deal? I guess its strange for me coming from NJ where there was a local ska show pretty much every weekend. If any local bands are interested in putting on a show let me know about that too

We have a bunch of shows already lined up for the summer. I would check band websites for the most up to date information, because the dates don't always get added here:

Fri May 23 – Bay Café 21+ 6-10pm
Sun Jun 1 – Bay Café 21+ 4-8pm
Thu Jun 12 – Bethesda Summer Concert Series at Veterans Park 6-8pm
Fri Jun 13 – Bay Café 21+ 6-10pm
Thu Jul 3 – Bay Café 21+ 6-10pm
Fri Jul 4 – Columbia Lakefront 4th of July Fireworks 6:15-7:30pm
Fri Aug 8 – Bay Café 21+ 6-10pm
Sat Aug 9 – Avenue at Whitemarsh 7-9pm
Sat Aug 16 – Inner Harbor Amphitheater 7-10pm
Sun Aug 17 – Bay Café 21+ 4-8pm
Sat Sep 6 – Avenue at Whitemarsh 21+ 7-9pm
Fri Sep 12 – Bay Café 21+ 6-10pm
Sat Sep 13 - Meiklejohn's Pub (not sure of age requirement)
Fri Oct 10 – Bay Café 21+ 6-10pm


Here's Unity's current show listing too:

may 2008
2 penguins baltimoreMD 9:30-11PM
3 prince georges community college caribbean festival largoMD 2:15-1 free
4 towson town festival towsonMD 1-2:30 free
9 bay cafe baltimoreMD 5:30-9:30
10 university town center hyattsvilleMD 3-6 free
18 seacrets ocean cityMD 9-1
19 seacrets ocean cityMD 9-1
23 mountain branch golf club joppaMD 7-11
24 private wedding baltimoreMD 11 PM
25 hometown holidays rockvilleMD 5-7 free
31 chesapeake bay wine festival kent isalndMD 4-6

june 2008
5 the homewood school columbiaMD 5-7
6 penguins arbutusMD TBA
7 the unity music festival warfordsburgPA

8 the cheasapeake inn chesapeake cityMD 3:30-8:30 free
14 paddle for the cure benifit middle riverMD 9AM-12
15 hightopps backstage grille timoniumMD 4-8 free
19 private evgagement annapolisMD 5-7
20 private engagement ocean cityMD 6-11
21 washingtonian center concert series gaithersburg MD 6:30-8:30 free
22 bay cafe baltimoreMD 4-8
27 belvedere square baltimoreMD 6-9 free
27 penguins baltimoreMD 11:30P-1
28 private evgagement edgewaterMD 1-4
28 private evgagement olneyMD 8-midnight
29 watermans's crab house rock hallMD 2-6

july 2008
4 penguins baltimoreMD 11:30P-1
5 navy recreation center solomans islandMD 7-9
6 watermans's crab house rock hallMD 2-6
11 armadillos annapolisMD 10-1:30
12 private engagement loudoun golf & country club purcellvilleVA
19 breaux vineyards purcellvilleVA 11-2:30
20 hightopps backstage grille timoniumMD 4-8 free
22 seacrets ocean cityMD 9-1
26 silver spring concert series silver springMD 6:30-8:30 free
27 bay cafe baltimoreMD 4-8

august 2008
2 lochern caribbean pool party lbaltimoreMD 7-9
3 watermans's crab house rock hallMD 2-6
11 seacrets ocean cityMD 9-1
12 seacrets ocean cityMD 9-1
23 boordy vinyards hydes, MD 7-9:30
24 bay cafe baltimoreMD 4-8
30 house sports bar laurel DE 9-1

september 2008
21 hightopps backstage grille timoniumMD 4-8 free
28 watermans's crab house rock hallMD 2-6

october 2008
12 watermans's crab house rock hallMD 2-6

Post edited by: JoeRoss578, at: 2008/05/08 15:18

Here goes my soap box rant...But Joe some of these events are not shows! When a band is playing an event for a group of people not there to see them then that's not a show. Yes it is entertainment but maybe its more background music. I am not saying there is anything wrong with this. Because musicians need to get paid. But I am sure if anyone attended a crab house show or wine in the wood event-- the majority of the room would not care if a reggae band or a Journey cover band was playing. I am not trying to sound self righteous but lets call a spade a spade.



Here are some shows I'm involved in this summer.

This coming Friday a show with all local bands playing punk and reggae.
The Omega Band
The Chariots
Throwdown Syndicate
Mostly Monkee
9pm 5 dollar cover
@ red and black in NE DC
All these bands play a different style and they might surprise you!



July 17th @ Fletchers in Baltimore
Hub City Stompers and Bigger Thomas
opening bands TBA if anyone has an interest and can draw in the Baltimore area contact me!!!


July 27th @ Fletchers in Balitmore
Deals Gone Bad, the Ambitions, the Chariots, International Jet Set


For July 17th if anyone is interested in playing please be able to draw in Baltimore and email me ....... bobbybobson (at) gmail . com

Nonetheless, if one were to attend an event in which the Players Band was performing, they would no doubt see the Players Band.

--Andrew

I've seen the Players at numerous festivals and other places that I thought might be interesting. I always like going to the book fest and seeing them play. I always wondered how they found bands to play at something like a book festival. I would pick bands named after books. But hey I am not in charge.


For me when I see a band it's all about the context. If I see a band playing a club and they are playing the songs I listen to on their myspace or cd. And its a band I have been waiting months to see and they play a perfect set. It is enjoyable. However if they are playing some sort of restaraunt and they play 3 hour set to a group of people that are there just to eat at the restaraunt. Their set isn't the same. Playing original music is hard but I think taking gigs just to get money can really hurt a band's fan base.

I mean maybe because I got into ska and punk music the bands I always liked I held at like a high esteem. I dunno reading stuff about bands like the Clash and Specials. They care about what their fans thought. And they would do shows accordingly.

You don't see the Aggrolites playing places like a bay cafe or crab shack. I am sure those events are fun but if someone from this board was looking for a show stumbled upon an event like this I don't think they would none so happy.

Maybe I am too idealistic... but every band I have been in I have embraced the ethos I am trying to explain here.

Post edited by: bobbybobson, at: 2008/05/09 09:25

Post edited by: bobbybobson, at: 2008/05/09 09:29

Bob,

I copied Unity's show list from their website; I should have discarded the "private engagement" or "wedding" dates from the show calendar, so for that I apologize.

Having said that, you are coming off ***WAY*** too idealistic here. I've seen the private discussion between you and Andrew (since it was shared with Unity and Players members), but to take your opinion public like you did is asking for severe criticism. For $5 (or free, if you talk to us ahead of time), you can come to the Bay Cafe, get happy hour beer prices, free buffet on Fridays, and listen to us play for THREE HOURS. Unfortunately, you have to be 21+, but that's how it is. We play with just as much enthusiasm and energy as we do for a gig where we play for 30 minutes to an hour. And, you don't have to pay $12 or $15 just to get into the show. For you to sit there and tell me that our set is not the same is absolutely ridiculous. I actually prefer the longer gigs, because I love to play ska/reggae influenced music, and we really have a good time at those gigs. It actually feels like a waste of my time (and our fans' time) to play for a shorter time.

You could just as easily take your comments and apply them to DJing, which everyone knows you've been doing a lot of in the past few years. I've been to plenty of DJ nights where all that the DJs are doing is providing background music. Are you implying that a DJ is less of a man/woman if he takes a DJ gig that isn't a high-energy dance party? Take, for example, your DJ nights at the Kitty Kat Bar. I went up to the bar that one night knowing that some old reggae music was going to be played. That was added incentive for me to come, however, my main reason was to come and hang out with Sab. I had an added bonus in that the Caps/Flyers playoff game was on the tube. I actually would have preferred the music *stop* and the game volume be turned *up*, but it was good anyway. My point is that you guys were just background music to me, but I still enjoyed it.

We don't take gigs "just to get money," and I'm ***HIGHLY*** offended by that comment. We do gigs that are meaningful to us, compensate us well (not just money), and help spread our music. By limiting yourself to club gigs where you're playing with bands that draw from the same crowd, you're drawing from the same fan base. We have garnered attention from a WIDE variety of people, by playing at a variety of places. Keep in mind that some of our early-years recurring gigs in DC happened at Felix in Adams Morgan. You know who also had recurring gigs there? EST. So, are you gonna imply that EST is "background music" too?

We've got 14 year old high school kids wearing the latest "cool" shirts from Hot Topic loving our sound, 25 year old white-collar adults wearing collared shirts and khakis that really dig our sound, and 65 year old senior citizens wearing cowboy hats and clothes you thought were retired asking to sit in with us to play a bongo drum. We've let people sit in with us numerous times: The old guy on a bongo drum, Jen's young cousin playing drums on a song, my drunk ass brother coming up to sing a song. We don't worry what people think about that.

The sole point of my post was to point out that not all shows are listed on this website, and the original poster may wish to view a particular band's website for up-to-date show information. I included our schedule and Unity's schedule as an example, since we haven't added shows to this site in a while (not for any particular reason other than we just hadn't gotten around to it yet). You took it and went off on a rant, implying that most of our gigs are not actually shows because they're "background music." If you wanna sit there and discourage people from attending an event where a band is performing because it's not at a standard venue, and the band is getting paid a decent amount, go right ahead. Just realize that you are offending an ***awful*** lot of people by making the statements that you did.

P.S. - This doesn't change anything in terms of us being boys, I just find your opinion offensive. Peace.

As far as what Joe said about we play with the same enthusiasm – consider that our newest album is a full live album of 17 songs all recorded live at the Bay Café. We could have recorded sets at ‘shows’ but since we put as much into it there as we do at 9:30 club or Recher it was just as good to record at the Bay Café.

So what if not everyone there isn’t a huge ska/reggae fan. If I had an opportunity to see the Specials or Bob Marley at a retirement community or at the crab shanty, I would be the first in line.

As for gigs for money – we have a lot of shows where we are responsible for sound. We also like to make cd’s every once in a while. No $, no sound or cd’s.

Andy

without getting too caught up in things, i haven't updated the shows list in awhile. and i've been meaning to do so, but i haven't been around much and when i have been around i've been sick (awesome!). i have a bunch of shows to add, which will be added soon. the way the site is set up, it's a little bit more of a pain for me to add the shows. the old site people could submit shows and all i had to do was click and approve them. but there wasn't a module available like that.

anyway, there's also a lack of "ska shows" because we (rude in dc) haven't been putting any on. not saying that bands can't have shows without us, but we did focus on putting on ska shows at least once a month. when dan was diagnosed with cancer, our priorities switched gears and because of his lack of immune system we couldn't interact with huge masses of people and do what we loved most - put on shows. then when he passed away, the last thing on my mind was putting on shows. (it was hard enough for me to get this site running again.) and also the warehouse next door closed, so we lost our venue.

in any case, i'm looking to do shows again because i think it's a big part of what's missing in this scene. i'm picky with finding the right venue, but i'm in the process of working something out. for a time was a lull with bands being there were only a handful and most of them didn't play all that often or broke up. but there are a handful of new bands popping up, so yea, um... look for something good to happen this summer?

Ok I did not mean to go after your post about shows, Joe. But I really meant everything I said -- I did not mean to imply that the Players or URB just care about money. I think though some of the shows booked by both bands alienate some of your fans that would come see you guys play at clubs.

I book national acts because there is no one else in the area anymore that really wants to help set up book club gigs. I often lose money and pay out of my pocket. But that is life. The past year when I started doing Ottobar gigs though I have started to break even.

I have seen you guys play at the Bay Cafe. And that has a club vibe about it. And I know fans come out to see you play there.

I am not trying to fault you guys for doing what you are doing. I like the Players and URB. I come out to see you guys play. Well I hope I will still be welcome after all this bullshit drama. I liked your new album I am writing up a review on it for dc ska.

I had no clue that my private conversation with Andrew was shared with members of URB and the Players. So Joe all that stuff is taken unfairly out of context. But if you think it will shine more light to this thread please post it. For you to mention it -- I assume that is in your mind as you wrote your reply.


I expect more from live music than djing. Djing is like a jukebox you set the vibe for the venue. What I play at the kitty kat is just sort of more laid back relaxing than what I play at other places. For example the Marx Cafe usually packs the dancefloor around midnight and you see the floor is full of these girls that want bass heavy music. So I play a set of 70's rub a dub / early 80's dance hall to get the ladies moving and grooving. Then at the lithuanian hall I have a packed dancefloor with mods, indie rockers, scenesters I'll play sixties music. You set the mood. A live band makes the mood.


Anyway back to the subject at hand... I think my reaction wasn't the best to your post Joe. But I am not trying to talk people out of supporting your band or any band. I liked the skankfest the Players and URB put on last year. I wish you guys would do more stuff like that in the future. And maybe when a touring band contacts me I can send them your way and you can help them out. Or maybe someone can help this poor guy that started this "shit storm" of a thread.

Michelle: I hope I didn't imply that it was the responsibility of the website to keep on top of shows around the area. If it came across that way, I apologize! I look forward to seeing Rude in DC back in action with regards to show promotion; you all really did (do) a lot to promote this genre of music around the DC and Baltimore area.

Bob: No hard feelings; I just took offense to your comments. Trust me, if I let disagreements get between me and my friends, I would have left The Players about a dozen times since rejoining the group.

I understand that certain venues give off a different vibe when a person is watching a band perform. Honestly, I don't care what you call it: "show," "performance," "event;" they're all the same to me. I'm just curious how you think we alienate some of our fans? Performing at a "club" alienates some of our fans as well; parents with younger kids who would like to see us or older folks may think that The Ottobar or Fletchers is in a shady neighborhood, and might feel uncomfortable there.

Over the years, we've all done our part in booking national acts. I've helped get Mass Hysteria, Westbound Train, Take 5, Victor Rice Octet, and many other bands, shows down here. I've also paid a lot of money out of pocket. The VR8 show got moved to that shitty VFW at the last minute, since The Corner Kick closed down, and I lost $300 on that show. I've also paid some money out of pocket for Westbound Train, and I've had both them and Mass Hysteria stay at my house. Andy has worked with Bucket extensively in the past in organizing some shows down here for The Toasters, and he has a couple of other groups in mind for potential future shows.

The IM conversation between Andrew and yourself was shown to members of Unity due to some comments that came across as offensive. Since a few members of Unity also play in The Players, it was shown to us as well. I actually commented to the guys that I didn't think that a private IM conversation held at 2 AM was something to get too riled up about, although I did find some of your comments offensive. I only brought it up here because you kinda echoed your comments there.

But seriously, it doesn't change anything on a friendship level; we're all still boys. I know Mark has been discussing a Mobtown Skankfest for this year, but it's still in the works. Peace.

Who died and made Bobby "Blabbermouth" Babylon the reggae police? Opinions are like holes and Bobby should know because he is one in my opinion.

If you are reading this Booby then you know to stay clear of me and my crew in the future as it is now on!

You are one step away from having your life turned upside down and creating the worst fate that you could have in the reggae community...becoming my worst enemy.

Your pretend knowledge of reggae may be seem vast but you have no positive vibes to offer the reggae community at this point and must feel the need to say negative stuff to feed you ego or feel better about your miserable existence.

You don’t have the slightest idea of what reggae means and what it stands for.

I suggest that you be a real man and say you negative comments to me directly and stop all of this childish second hand chatter defaming the local bands.

If you say anymore negative shit about Unity Reggae Band then I will see you in "Reggae Court" when you least expect it!

The Players Band doesn't have to answer to your rhetoric either so you maybe you should actually think about what you are writing before you post and ask yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.

I have been booking bands for 18 years and the bands that you book are basically broke local touring bands thrown in weak clubs and are underpaid according to what they say back stage anyway.

Despite what you think and say in chat rooms, we (real reggae artists) are not drugs addict, alcoholics and so on. You however may have an addiction to being an asshole or eating or something else but I don’t really know so whatever.

What I do know is that you are a fake and a hypocrite at best with all of your bullshit talk about bands playing for money and playing places that you conclude to be a fake venue or show.

This is America and we can do what we want and if you have a problem with what I do then say it to my face and prepare for what happens next…

Enjoy your day everyone…sorry to have to vent this way but at least Bobby is now warned.

Oh jesus... excuse Mark. He was drinking last night...

--Andrew

You can't take what people say online the same as it would come across in person. Bob obviously made it clear that he was not talking any crap.

If you think a friend is talking about you badly call him, email him whatever. Talk to him in person. Making threats of im not your friend/watch your back is just childish to say the least. Don't be so sensitive about whats online.

learymark wrote:

If you are reading this Booby then you know to stay clear of me and my crew in the future as it is now on!


What is on? What did I do to you so personal that you have to come after me? I don't fight people but I do defend myself. I don't think I have to worry about your crew because every show I've booked URB on the bands coming from out of town brought more people.



learymark wrote:

You are one step away from having your life turned upside down and creating the worst fate that you could have in the reggae community...becoming my worst enemy.


I am not trying to be your worst enemy. But the last time I heard you threatening someone I remember someone trying to pull a gun at you (13th floor last year).





learymark wrote:

Your pretend knowledge of reggae may be seem vast but you have no positive vibes to offer the reggae community at this point and must feel the need to say negative stuff to feed you ego or feel better about your miserable existence.

You don’t have the slightest idea of what reggae means and what it stands for.



I have been writing for dcska.com for 7/8 years. Playing in bands since I've been fifteen. Putting on shows at venues throughout Baltimore/DC for years. I write and dj for dcsoundclash.com and put together mixes for our monthly Jamaican music night. I write for www.musicaloccupation.com a blog composed of mostly writers in the modern ska/reggae scene from the west coast. I wish I hadn't been so clueless all these years all this time I wasted. Please educate me!!! Makr Reggae God Leary!!!




learymark wrote:

If you say anymore negative shit about Unity Reggae Band then I will see you in "Reggae Court" when you least expect it!

The Players Band doesn't have to answer to your rhetoric either so you maybe you should actually think about what you are writing before you post and ask yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.



Yes I hate the players band so much! You figured it out Mark. NOT!!! I have written numerous reviews for the band throughout the years. And I consider a few of the members friends of mine. At the same time I have always been honest how I feel. I dislike the band so much that on my latest podcast I opened with 2 of their songs from their newest album.
http://www.mobtownskasounds.podomatic.com

Please take me to your reggae court. I think your crimes against reggae could out weigh mine.





learymark wrote:

I have been booking bands for 18 years and the bands that you book are basically broke local touring bands thrown in weak clubs and are underpaid according to what they say back stage anyway.

It's funny people who play with you / played with you in the past have told me about not being fairly paid by you. And I wish I could but I won't name any names. The only 2 shows I ever booked URB on was at the Ottobar. I guess you consider that a weak ass venue. Both shows you guys promised a bigger draw then what you come through with but I still paid you. And shook your hand after each show. I didn't know you were so unhappy. I wish you would have been more upfront with me. Please tell me what bands were underpaid because unlike you I make sure everyone I work with is happy at the end of the day.

I heard you did not even want to play a show with Toots because you might not be getting paid enough. Uhmm... what would Bob Marley say?








learymark wrote:

Despite what you think and say in chat rooms, we (real reggae artists) are not drugs addict, alcoholics and so on. You however may have an addiction to being an asshole or eating or something else but I don’t really know so whatever.


So I have not said anything negative about you personally. But you mention me having an addiction ... "to being asshole or eating." How old are you Mark? Making fun of my weight! You must feel really threatened by what I am saying to have you say something so childish. By posting on here you are representing the Players Band and URB your business. Is this how a business man acts? Name calling and physical threats? I don't make physical threats... I am a physical threat. You haven't seen me angry and I don't think you want to.




learymark wrote:

What I do know is that you are a fake and a hypocrite at best with all of your bullshit talk about bands playing for money and playing places that you conclude to be a fake venue or show.


Fine I am everything you say! But you seemed to really be bothered by everything I have said. The only reason that conversation was made to Andrew was because I was worried about him. Yes I am sorry for being a real fucking human being. Ever since he joiend your band he be all "about the money." I just tried to warn him of your rhetoric.

And let me warn you buddy! You will be sorry for these comments. Because my aim is true... and no matter what you think Mark - I am not your worst enemy. I think might be what you see in the mirror.

Post edited by: bobbybobson, at: 2008/05/10 12:57

I wrote this really nice reply to the author of the thread telling him that I enjoyed his songs and they kind of reminded me a little of Edna's Goldfish but it got deleted.

I basically said that our scene doesn't really have a bunch of young ska bands like it did. Most of the "DCska people" I know are into the reggae stuff versus the 3rd wave stuff and I feel like all those ska/reggae bands are for grown ups anyhow.

The person I'd ask about this sort of thing is my old roommate, Cary Hyatt. He's in Last Martyrs of a Lost Cause up in Philly. Maybe look his band up and see where they've played...? I don't really have any DC leads for you.

Oh, wait. You can maybe try this house:
http://www.myspace.com/thevermonthurler
I know they have shows but I think they're mostly indie, punk, and hardcore.

The other person I thought of is a Jersey person and he's not in a ska band but he could give you leads elsewhere. His name is Rob and this is his band's website: http://www.bysurprise.net/

It's kind of sad but I honestly don't think I know any young ska bands anymore. Am I that old?

Good luck and I'm sorry for all the other drama in this thread.

"Disclaimer"

The views expressed by any individuals are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Players Band.

bobbybobson wrote:
Ever since he joiend your band he be all "about the money."

Shutup and pay me!

--Andrew

1. joe - it's cool, i was gonna post about me not posting shows before, but didn't get a chance to and then forgot, but then realized i should because i wanted to clarify the situation. i just wanted people who aren't from the area or are new to the site to realize what was up. so no hard feelings at all.

2. i would like to thank this thread for the increased traffic to dcska.com, now i just have to add all the shows people have talked about to the site. i mostly go to venue websites to get my show info, so if bands have other shows, feel free to send them thru the contact link on this site.

3. katie and everyone - there are a lot of up-and-coming ska bands in the area. check my myspace page or dcska.com's myspace page (http://www.myspace.com/dcskadotcom). i'm in the process of putting together a bunch of band profiles over the next few weeks, so keep an eye out for that.

i know this scene isn't the most cohesive as it has been, so i'm trying my best to put things back together. with the site being down for almost a year, and bands coming and going, it's been tough to get things back to where they were. and i know everyone misses those days. i was kinda hoping it would fall into place naturally, but i realized i'm gonna have to put more effort into fostering it.

4. anyway, for those of you that don't know bob well, i've known bob for almost 10 years. he really does know his shit about music. he's probably one of the most knowledgeable people in the scene that really knows his ska and reggae. i've seen him do his research on stuff and because of that he's like a walking encyclopedia. and yes, i also know you for sure don't want to see bob mad, but that's neither here nor there.

5. and in regards to what was being discussed before... i've been to a few of those "3-hour set" shows and i can see how musicians have fun with them because it allows them to be creative (like dub out songs) or just being able to play music they love is fun. i dont think they put any less into the show because usually when i go the band sounds great and not like ass. if i go to one of those festivals or "3-hour set" gigs, i dont really say "oh i'm going to see background music." i kind of think bob was saying that it's considered by others to be background music. i've been to 3-hour set gigs before where people just go to drink and could care less about the music going on, and that's where it's seen as background music. and i've seen it go both ways - some people like playing those things regardless if they are ignored for whatever reason and some people take complete offense to it and feel unappreciated. i suppose it's a matter of personal preference.

i do think it's great if bands that play those gigs do get new fans that they probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

personally, i am not really into seeing bands i like at outdoor fests or at high end bars with clientel that i don't usually hang out with. i like going to see bands in smoke-free, club-like atmospheres (e.g. the ottobar or black cat), but that's me and that's what i like. there'd be exceptions to me going to outdoor fests, etc. - like if the band was from out of town or if they rarely played and there'd be no other chance i'd see them.

6. anyway, to the guy who originally was looking for shows - BlondeShells (mrs. jones and charlotte) put on shows in their basement that are fun. http://www.blondeshells.com

7. i'm going to bed, good night.

Sorry that I forgot the all important "Disclaimer" folks!

Yo Bubby!




Yo Bobby, Don’t flatter yourself to much as you are the catalyst of this conversation in this open forum. You ask for this not me.

It is clearly obvious that your “expense” has left you with such a lack of humility that you can’t even let one musician help another find some honest work without spitting out some crap about what qualifies as a show.

Your idea of booking URB was little more that a last second call to fill in for another band that backed out – nothing more. I don’t even remember a second show.

You also have a creative memory as I never threatened anyone at the 13th Floor but was sticking up for you as the manager was in your face first talking about how you were a fake DJ! Looking back I can see his point.

Anyone can write…and I know that you don’t hate the Players even though they play fake gigs?

URB has donated $1200 to cancer research so far this year and have another $1200 donation scheduled for June – Not bad for a band that is all about the money.

How much money has your organization raised this year for the battle? And over the last 18 years of donation my services reach into the tens of thousands. You just don’t know much at all.

And yes the Ottobar is pretty weak but I really hadn’t noticed until you mentioned it. Thanks again.

You were also misinformed about the Toots show. I spoke with the leader of the players about an entirely different issue regarding the Toots show so YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN B. Gossip suck’s when you have a misinformed source.

I unlike you read word for word what you said about URB and reggae musicians as a whole. Should we go there?

I sleep well because URB does pay it’s crew properly every time and you, once again, are not even there when URB pays out so what do you REALLY know? Nothing.

Warnings are not threats Bobby. There you go.
However, you should probably get some help on you God complex. But you would know…

It’s good to know that you are looking out for your friends but even better that your not one of mine because if you call you IM conversation helping then you may need more help that I originally thought. Only you know the root to why Bobby is evil.

Your aim is off center buddy. I am already sorry that I ever met you so these comments are pretty trivial…

Enjoy Today